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| 3M | mod | Removed Comment personally i think we all owe Haz a blowjob for destroying destiny, azovsomething and a whole load of CIA&MI&/bellingcat GLOWIE leftist.
i don't know if you are PERPETRATING a COINTELPRO campaign here or FALLING VICTIM to one. but why would we expell some of the most effective voices? Voices who actually read theory, albeit not always the way or the one you want
Voices under attack by Hillary glowie influencers financed by security agency think tanks. whereas all the others have dropped assange and do not fall victims to such campaigns... One has to notice that by Breadbeard reason: Being anti-patsoc means you are a "hillary glowie"? what? |
| 3M | mod | Removed Comment so you are basically shutting the door on one of the more populist strands of leftism to which we should bring theory and our perspectives rather than resenting them for being not as "intellectual" and "moral" as we see ourselves? These people and the debates with them are a gateway to their audiences. Sorry guys, but this is You/Us shooting Y/ourselves in the foot by Breadbeard reason: Opportunistic appeals to conservatism |
| 3M | mod | Removed Comment i personally think that this decision goes against the interest of the left.
i mean where do you draw your center within the left? plz don't tell me it's "the serfs" and other shills for Biden/Hillary... Maupins projections about the infiltration and co-opting of the "breadtube sphere" to these overall strategies have been proven over and over. (just look at Philosophytube... and its connections - i still like a lot of her content, but hey: that is manipulation from behind).
By now, even people like Dugin, Shirinofsky, Castro and other "bad wolves" (and dugin and shirinofsky are bad in many aspects)the western left does not want to touch have been proven right in statements they made 20-50 years ago. So i question a left that excludes voices - which as unreasonable as they may sound on certain issues - are unblinded by the flock in other regards
This just goes the same old "let's not debate 911, let's be silent over it and see where that goes" strategy. Thus left the interpretative authority to people like THE BUSH GOVERNMENT and people like ALEX JONES... who then rallied the alt-right along these obvious false flags/inside jobs that everyone knew were being lied about yet still did not fight against on the left. And thus the left was painted as establishment censorhsip based and the right presented itself as "the resistance"
You can't ignore the facts on the ground. And this is primarily a campaign that targets them for their pro-russian narratives. because that is what counts to the people who have money, the other talk, they ignore that all day every day.
And just look at the center left criticism of Mearsheimer. They can't even attack Mearsheimer for his ULTIMATE FALLACY - believing that the countries of the west were "liberal democracies" exporting "liberal democracy" to begin with. none of them are or ever have been liberal. And that is what the left should attack about Mearsheimer, not his absolutely correct and historically accurate statements about NATO expansion & Nazi funding by US/UK in Ukraine and that this was doomed to lead to war since 2008 by Breadbeard reason: Defending maupin |
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| 3M | mod | Removed Comment Lies, he never said anything even close to this. You are creating chaos and mistrust where it doesnt exist, you are constantly calling him an patsoc that hates black and lgbt people, when he never said anything close to this. You are acting exactly how kruschev was after stalin died, and now you are openly difamating other people and calling for a purge. You are contributing for infighting over a bunch over misunderstandings at best, and twitter/youtube drama at worse, this is very irresponsible of you as an moderator. Please stop doing this before this place becomes like what r/GenZedong did after the quarentine. by  @Rafael_Luisi@lemmygrad.ml reason: Comparing indigenous rights defense to the Kruschev defamation of Stalin |
| 3M | mod | Removed Comment Where is it even saying israelis should take palestinian land? Its saying the opposite, that unless they are being manipulated by the israelli burgeoise through chauvinism to believe they need to take the land, its not on the best interests of the israeli workers on the long term to be colonisers, eventually israel would just become an US style colony instead of an apartheid. Just like nowadays on capitalistic post colonies, like the US, Canadá, Brasil, and other examples of capitalistic ex colonies, the worker classes are still being explored even when they are the "settler" because they dont own no means of production, the stolen land? Its property of the burgeoise, the means of production on it? Also owned by the burgeoise. The capital being stolen from the natives and their lands, also owned by the burgeoise. Thats why its an capitalistic colony, the if the israelli workers are getting anything from the colonization of palestine, they will not after the colonisation is complete, just like it has happened on every capitalistic colony in the world and the countries that created them, thats because capitalism is not susteinable, there is just so much money the capitalists can give to calm the population before its start to not be enough, when the burgeoise starts making much more money then the ploretariat, while the ploretariat only have enough to not die.
Thats why communists on both israel and palestine want an palestine free of colonialism, xionism, where the burgeoise gets kicked out and both israellis and palestinians can rule the country, it does not take a genious to see that the burgeoise giving stolen land to israellis is just burgeoise apeasing, they are just manipulating them to support the colonialist apartheid while its being builded, so when they dont need most of the support of the population, capitalism will doe its job and take everything from both israelis and palestinians. by @Rafael_Luisi@lemmygrad.ml reason: "Thats why communists on both israel and palestine want an palestine free of colonialism, xionism, where the burgeoise gets kicked out and both israellis and palestinians can rule the country" |
| 3M | mod | Removed Comment Wow, what a lazy slander against Maupin. Lets debunk it point by point.
1: Fascism is when you arent a third worldist apparently? Ive already debunked third worldism, but its besides the point. Do you know that ALL ML parties worldwide reject third worldism and all this weird ideas you have about settler colonialism? Only some niche maoist (MLM) parties are third worldists. Is the CP of China fascist, because they reject it? Is CPUSA fascist? Is the Greek CP fascist? Is the Russian CP fascist? The bolivian one? The venezuelan? The argentinian? The spanish one? The CPI (M) in India? The one in Ceylon?
2: Wow, fascism is when Trump jokes that you are his favourite reporter? I mean this one is just hilarious.
3: This post is full of inaccuracies. So, lets see, who is Alexander Dugin? Dugin is a very famed russian philosopher. Dugins politics have changed a lot over time. He began his politics in his youth in an underground russian ultranationalist and conservative group called Pamyat in the late 1980s. He was opposed to Gorbachevs capitulation to the west, which is why he soon left the Pamyat and became aligned with the "hardliner" faction of the CPSU.
After the USSR dissolved in 1991, Dugin joined forces with several "hardliners" led by Gennady Zyuganov and helped write the Constitution of the new Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF). He also helped organize in 1992 the National Salvation Front, a broad coalition of the CPRF, socialists, nazbols and ultranationalists, from far left to far right, with the sole purpose of overthrowing Boris Yeltsin. The NSF attempted to seize power during the Black October in 1993 but failed. After that the NSF split.
At that point, Dugin left the CPRF and founded together with Eduard Limonov, an openly gay punk novelist, the National Bolshevik Party (NBP), a party combining right wing nationalism and communism and mixing communist and nazi symbols. They were inspired by the national bolshevik ideas of Ernst Niekisch, a german social democrat who was expelled from the SPD for rejecting the Treaty of Versaille and saying that german socialists should use a nationalistic appeal to the people to overthrow capitalism.
The party openly called for the overthrow of Boris Yeltsin, and soon got in trouble with the authorities. In 1998, Dugin left the NBP, and founded the Eurasian Movement, a party with a very different ideology called "eurasianism". In 2007 the NBP was banned by the russian government as an extremist organization and dissolved.
So here we have the first lie. The post says that Caleb met with "Dugin, the main organizer of the fascist nazbol party in Russia" in 2018. In 2018 the NBP didnt even exist! And Dugin had left that party 20 years ago! Here we see a lack of care for presenting factual evidence, the post is just cheap slander aimed at people who dont know much about the topic. Lets continue.
What is eurasianism? The best manifesto of what eurasianism is, is Dugins book "The Fourth Political Theory" published in 2009. This theory aims to be an alternative to capitalism, communism and fascism. Dugin explictly rejects fascism, since he says it is an inherently racist and genocidal ideology. Thus, we could sum up eurasianism as a weird mix of antiwesternism, antiliberalism, conservatism and postmodernism.
Dugin rejects dialectical materialism and marxism, he believes in postmodernism, that there is no objective reality. With this, he deduces that there are 2 main forces in the world, atlanticism, which is based in the NATO countries and is individualistic, and eurasianism, based in eurasia and collectivistic. Dugin says communism was an expression of this eurasianism, but that it ultimately failed because its in origin a western idea, not apt for Eurasia. He also says capitalism and imperialism are an expression of atlanticism.
Thus, Dugin calls for Eurasia to unite against the west to defeat and contain atlanticism, and says that the russian nation will play a key role in that. And here we arrive to the crux of the matter, Dugin is opposed to western imperialism, and thats why Caleb was happy to meet him and talk with him one time at an antiimperialist conference, which is what that conference was, it was called "Alternatives to Globalization Conference".
Now the question of a million dollars, is Dugin a fascist? I personally dont think so, i think hes a conservative and antiimperialist, much like Ayatollah Khomeini, opposed to imperialism and capitalism, but also to communism, and emphasizing tradition and religion. He supports all the antiimperialist countries (China, Iran, Syria, Palestine, DPRK, Cuba, Venezuela, etc), and is very opposed to the US and Israel. Is Caleb an eurasianist? Hell no! Hes a communist, just because he met Dugin one time that doesnt make him an eurasianist now.
Furthermore, if meeting Alexander Dugin makes you automatically a fascist, then the leader of the CPRF Gennady Zyuganov is a superfascist! He met with Dugin many times and even formed an electoral alliance with him. Vladimir Putin also has met Dugin many times and consulted him for policy. Is Putin a fascist? Dugin has also been in contact with the leaders of the DPR and LPR. Are they fascists? More links on this topic below:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Niekisch
https://www.vice.com/es/article/xwn7wd/eduard-limonov-el-libro-de-las-aguas-entrevista (in spanish)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Salvation_Front_(Russia)
Lets continue. Fascism is when you write a weird article on the idea of america and leftism in the US? I mean i dont agree with it, but thats fascism? Ok bro.
4: Same stuff as 3.
5: All that tweet is saying is that all the things conservatives supposedly cherish, the family, the community bonds and all that, are being destroyed by capitalism and could be protected by socialism. This is why russian conservatives like Dugin are opposed to capitalism. For what i understand, Caleb isnt saying that socialism is inherently conservative, its the other way around, hes saying that conservatives should be socialists if they really care about community bonds and all that.
And even if you disagree with it (i do), thats not fascism. Conservatism isnt fascism. Conservatism has been around since the French Revolution, fascism only first appeared in the 1920s in Europe. Or are you saying that those who supported King Louis XVI in the French Parliament were fascists? Because at that point the word loses all meaning and just becomes a synonym of "reactionary".
You claim Caleb is a fascist. Why dont you provide evidence of him actually SAYING fascist things, instead of him meeting with a person. This is literally conspiracy theory type stuff, you met with this guy so this is your intent, even though you cant deduce intent just from an image. by  @SaddamHussein24@lemmygrad.ml reason: Defense of Maupin, Dugin, and "conservative socialism" |
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